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Recommend Tentative Agreement Supplements
September 26, 2008 - Leaders of carhaul local unions from across the country unanimously recommended a new tentative National Master Automobile Transporters Agreement (NMATA) on Friday, September 26 in Indianapolis, paving the way for members to vote on the contract in early October. Learn more by downloading information for your region:
REVIEW http://www.teamster.org/landing.aspx?id=22078
More Discussion in the Forum “ok lets Take a look at this Contract“
September 27th, 2008 at 1:50 am
HMMm I think I need a height stick. I sometimes get Back hauls, there is no height stick there.
September 27th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
think that means that they will provide us with height sticks one time, and they won’t replace them,or there will be a heightstick fairy that comes when you snap your fingers when your picking up cars at auctions,, car rental places, or dealers,,,,, were going to get a stick, instead of a signing bonus….
September 28th, 2008 at 11:12 am
LETS FACE IT WE NEED TO GIVE THE CARHAUL INDUSTRY OVER TO THE SCABS!!! THERE IS NOTHING LEFT!!! WE NEED TO MOVE ON IN A NEW DIRECTION—-ANYONE THAT NEEDS A HEIGHT STICK, I HAVE SIX THAT I GOT FROM PTS—-WONDER IF THAT HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THEM GOING OUT OF BUSINESS?…….LOL……ARTICLE 48..SEC 17.. ALSO STATES THE EMPLOYER SHALL PROVIDE AND MAINTAIN PROPER TIEDOWN BARS FOR ALL DRIVERS OR ANY OTHER TOOLS NEEDED IN THE COURSE OF THEIR DUTIES AS REQUIRED BY THE EMPLOYER…..MUST BE CHEEPER TO PAY FOR A ROOF THAN A TIEDOWN BAR…NOTICE THE SHITTY PAY RAISE COMES IN THE THIRD YEAR OF THE CONTRACT…..BURKLE AND HIS BUDDIES WILL HAVE THEIR MONEY BACK WAAAAAAYYYY BEFORE THEN……WHAT EVER HAPPENED THE THE EXECUTIVE BONUSES???? SUCKERMAN POUNDING HIS PINKIE ON THE TABLE AND DOING NOTHING!!!!THAT CONTRACT IS ALL ABOUT KEEPING ALLIED GOING FORWARD FOR TWO MORE YEARS…..I’M NEXT FOR RECALL FIVE DRIVERS SENIOR TO ME HAVE ALREADY PASSED ON RETURNING….TERMINAL MANAGER HAS ALREADY TOLD THE SHOP STEWARD THERE IS NOOOO WAY THEY WILL HIRE ME!!! BOY, IS HE GOING TO BE SORRY WHEN I GET RECALLED…..I DON’T FORGET!!! I’M STILL VOTING NO….MAYBE THIS TIME THEY WILL COUNT MY BALLOT….AT LEAST THE BROTHERHOOD KNOWS I’M A TEAMSTER AND I VOTE…..LOL
September 28th, 2008 at 11:17 am
CHAINS, WHY DOES THAT SCAB,UNION BUSTING ORGANISATION HAVE A SURVEY ON HERE???
September 28th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
survey ? ?
OK I remember what your talking about. Thats a Google AD, seen it on other Union sites too.
I have a long list of block Google ads. You might see one from time to time.
Damn thing is a graphic, I need the address to it.
September 29th, 2008 at 10:56 am
I KNOW ITS NOT YOU!!! WE ARE SURROUNDED BY SCABS….THEY’RE EVERYWHERE……LOL…..WONDER WHY BIG BUSINESS HATES WORKING MEN AND WOMEN…..THEY WON’T BE HAPPY UNTIL EVERYONE IN THIS COUNTRY MADE MINIMUM WAGE…KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!!
October 1st, 2008 at 1:57 am
Dishonest and Disappointing Carhaul Leadership!
On Friday evening Local 327 held a Carhaul Contract Update meeting, with about 55 members in attendance. Members from Bowling Green and Birmingham were present as well. Jimmy Neal, Fred Zuckerman and Paul Houck (Buzzzzzy) were there to present the package to Carhaul members.
Fred stated that there are currently a little over 6,000 carhaul members. NOTE: There were about 11,075 ballots mailed out by the IBT for the referendum that was recently rejected.
The TA language changes were read by Fred Zuckerman.
* Several questions were raised concerning Article 10 sec. 3 Modified Work.
Examples were cited how Employers (Allied) had abused a member in the past, with
little or no remedy provided by Local 327’s BA Jimmy Neal. Seems at some point
there was a “Modified Work” agreement, under which the abuse took place, then at a
later date, it went away? Harm was done, reasonable remedy never occurred.
* The Union should retain all aspects of collective bargaining on this topic, requiring that
clear guidelines and uniform application of process and procedures should be in place
before there is ANY implementation of Modified Work.
*Article 22, 48 brought out many questions as well. Fred Zuckerman stated very clearly
that this current proposal was not as good as the one rejected. This statement invoked
the question how was the last proposal better than this one, to which Fred replied that
the previous proposal provided more work opportunity.
Are you kidding me? Is this the truth?
One member asked Fred about the concessions the members are being slapped with was serious pay cuts, how much do you make? Fred replied……enough. (no details given) One member said we have had too many pay cuts and Fred responded with “I have not had a pay increase in over ten years! Are you kidding me? Is this the truth?
Lets see……Zuckerman Salary
2007 $209.037
2006 $199,225
2005 $176,459
Those figures are all on TDU website. Figures do not include allowances, expenses, multiple pensions (at least 3 being accumulated), etc
That’s a $33,000 raise in just two years. 18% in 2 years. Or since 1997… Ten years ago (1997 vs 2007) Zuckerman salary = $97,737 total known compensation in 2007 was $248.570.00 so it went up 114%. And Fred is whining about not having a pay raise in over ten years! Come on…
Are you kidding me? Is this the truth?
When Fred was asked about allowing Rank and File Allied members to be present when the Local level hearing is held on Oct. 6th regarding Allied paying bonuses to management, he said no. When asked why, he said it would be stupid. In Fred’s Sept. 4th letter (Grievance) to Allied, he states Allied had paid significant bonuses to non-bargaining unit employees. That these payments amounted to an egregious breach of the basic commitments made under the Term Sheet.
However, during this meeting, Fred minimized the matter saying that it was just a small amount of money (300,000.00) paid out to just a few people.
The members know and believe that it is always a good idea to have the affected members present during any grievance issue being addressed. Why does Fred think it would be stupid?
Read it for yourself http://tdu.org/files/zuckermanletter.pdf
Anyone see any smoke and mirrors? Any lips moving?
Are you kidding me? Is this the truth?
This proposal still contains too many givebacks and concessions! Many changes are needed to clarify and simplify the language so that it is in layman’s terms for the members who have to work and live by it! Having Rank and File members involved in the negotiation process would go far in earning members confidence and trust as well as providing much more productive improvements !
My vote remains NO!
October 1st, 2008 at 5:47 pm
UNTIL WE ARE WILLING TO HAVE A NATIONWIDE STRIKE FOR AS LONG AS IT TAKES WE WILL CONTINUE TO GET THESE POS CONTRACTS. THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE. LETS FACE IT DRIVERS ARE AFRAID THEY WILL LOSE THEIR JOBS. NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN. SAD AS IT IS. I HAVE NEVER VOTED YES FOR A CONTRACT!!
October 1st, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Surprise, surprise, surprise….carhauler25 wants to strike for as long as it takes. Misery sure loves company. You have been all over the ball park with your postings. Your rants and threats and total BS spewed on here are a disgrace to the rank and file Teamsters. It is no wonder you are out of work. Your glad your previous employer went under, you say you will fight Allied if you ever get hired, and you say that we should strike the industry and destroy all the jobs we have that are unionized. Get a life and move on.
I for one fear that the movement to nonunion carriers is going to continue and unless all of us do something to organize the nonunion carriers and drivers we will all be either employed by a nonunion carrier or scrounging for an organized Teamster job in another industry.
October 3rd, 2008 at 1:55 pm
NO SHIT EINSTEIN, TELL ME WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD ANY NON-UNION DRIVER WANT TO BE ORGANIZED? BECOME A TEAMSTER FOR WHAT REASON? MONEY? REMEMBER, YOU VOTED YES FOR THE FIFTEEN PERCENT PAY CUT. GIVE ME ONE GOOD REASON. UNLESS WE STAND STRONG AND DEMAND A CONTRACT WITH OUR BEST INTERESTS IN MIND THE TEAMSTERS WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO ORGANIZE ANYONE. MAYBE YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE DRIVERS THAT THINKS, I WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO KEEP ALLIED SYSTEMS IN BUSINESS. PROBABLY VOTED YES ON THE LAST PROPOSAL. AS LONG AS YOU ARE WORKING YOU WILL EAT ALL THE SHIT ALLIED SYSTEMS GIVES YOU. YOU TRUELY BELIEVE WHATEVER THE COMPANY TELLS YOU, JUST LET ME KEEP WORKING, PLEASE I’LL TAKE A THIRTY PERCENT CUT JUST TO KEEP ME WORKING. THE ONLY REASON MY POSTS ARE BULLSHIT TO YOU IS YOU DO NOT LIKE TO HEAR THE TRUTH AS TO WHAT IS NEEDED TO GET A GOOD CONTRACT. EVER BEEN TO A UNION MEETING, STRIKE LINE, FILED A GRIEVENCE, STOOD UP TO A SUPERVISOR? DESTROY ALL THE JOBS THAT ARE UNIONIZED? ARE YOU KIDDING ME, THEY ARE ALREADY DESTROYED. IF THAT LAST PROPOSAL PASSED LIKE YOU WANTED IT TO THERE WOULD BE NOTHING LEFT!! THIS PROPOSAL ISN’T ANY BETTER. TEAMSTERS LIKE ME MAKE YOU NERVOUS. ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS THE FACT THAT YOU ARE WORKING. WHETHER YOU THINK SO OR NOT SHIT STIRRERS LIKE ME MADE YOUR WORKPLACE A BETTER PLACE TO WORK. WE STOOD UP TO THE COMPANYS SO THAT YOU DIDN’T HAVE TO. WHAT DO YOU BRING TO THE TABLE AT YOUR JOB? DO YOUR JOB, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT, TAKE THE GREAT UNION BENEFITS THAT THE TEAMSTERS NEGOTATED FOR YOU (PROBABLY THINK THE COMPANY WOULD GIVE YOU ALL THOSE HOLIDAYS,SICK DAYS,VACATIONS,HEALTH BENEFITS….ECT ON THEIR OWN). DO YOU GIVE ANYTHING BACK OR JUST TAKE? THE ONLY UNION INVOLVEMENT YOU HAVE IS ALLIED SYSTEMS TAKES YOUR DUES MONEY OUT EVERY MONTH. BE THANKFUL THERE ARE TEAMSTERS LIKE ME AT THE WORKPLACE AND POSTING HERE. IF ITS WASN’T FOR US THAT LAST PIECE OF SHIT CONTRACT WOULD HAVE PASSED. WE MAKE THIS UNION BETTER!! YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM!! NO NEED TO THANK ME NOW THAT YOU HAVE BEEN ENLIGHTENED. OH!! BY THE WAY I WILL ONCE AGAIN VOTE NO ON THIS PROPOSAL. ALSO, GIVE US SOME IDEAS ON HOW WE WILL ORGANIZE THE NON-UNION CARRIERS. I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO SEE THEM. PLEASE LEAD,FOLLOW OR GET OUT OF THE WAY!!
October 4th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Carhauler25 now that`s a great post. You are on the money on that one. These people are in denial the union is in drastic decline at the present with no end in sight. With leadership like we presently have and these give up and throw in the towel contract`s we will disapear before long. We must fight or die a slow death.
We need strong leader`s who are willing to do what it take`s to get better cotract`s not just wallow in mediocrity.
That`s what has gotten us to the point we are at now. Extinction!!
Chainslinger
October 4th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT!!!
October 6th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
As i said, Misery does love company. Chainslinger, why you don’t you tuck 25 into beddy bye at night!
Let me address your post 25:
NO SHIT EINSTEIN, TELL ME WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD ANY NON-UNION DRIVER WANT TO BE ORGANIZED? Why, to have better benefits and more opportunity to utilize seniority in determining what work you will do.
BECOME A TEAMSTER FOR WHAT REASON? Why did you become a Teamster. There were nonunion companies out there when you started in this industry. Why are you arguing for a better contract? Why not go to one of the scab outfits? You make no sense.
MONEY? REMEMBER, YOU VOTED YES FOR THE FIFTEEN PERCENT PAY CUT. GIVE ME ONE GOOD REASON. Because voting for the pay cut saved my job and a few thousand others. The option was to go out of business (like PTS) or let the judge throw out the contract and lose seniority, conditions, benefits and pay.
UNLESS WE STAND STRONG AND DEMAND A CONTRACT WITH OUR BEST INTERESTS IN MIND THE TEAMSTERS WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO ORGANIZE ANYONE. You make no sense, you just said why would anyone want to be a Teamster. Now you say that a strong contract will help us to organize. Make up your mind.
MAYBE YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE DRIVERS THAT THINKS, I WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO KEEP ALLIED SYSTEMS IN BUSINESS. I prefer having a job to being unemployed.
PROBABLY VOTED YES ON THE LAST PROPOSAL. Yes, I voted yes on the first proposal. It would not have changed the way my terminal operates or my ability to make a living and it met my expectations to protect my benefits.
AS LONG AS YOU ARE WORKING YOU WILL EAT ALL THE SHIT ALLIED SYSTEMS GIVES YOU. YOU TRUELY BELIEVE WHATEVER THE COMPANY TELLS YOU, JUST LET ME KEEP WORKING, PLEASE I’LL TAKE A THIRTY PERCENT CUT JUST TO KEEP ME WORKING. Here you have no idea what your talking about. I have been a steward, a committee member and have taken on management when they were wrong. I have gotten to know the senior management at every company I worked for so that I could influence decisions and how the business is run. I have helped hire and train new drivers and helped those about to be fired or fired to correct their work problems to retain their job. I am proud of my record. I earn every penny I make. I have never looked for a free ride.
THE ONLY REASON MY POSTS ARE BULLSHIT TO YOU IS YOU DO NOT LIKE TO HEAR THE TRUTH AS TO WHAT IS NEEDED TO GET A GOOD CONTRACT. No, I don’t like your posts because you make no sense. You offer no solutions, all you do is bitch and say the contract is no good. What solutions have you come with. It is easy to say that the contract is no good, anyone can say that. What do you offer as a way for the company to afford more? I am willing to listen.
EVER BEEN TO A UNION MEETING, STRIKE LINE, FILED A GRIEVENCE, STOOD UP TO A SUPERVISOR? Yes, all of them. Yes, even those of my fellow brothers. Yes, when I was unable to resolve the dispute through talking and offerring suggestions to resolve the issue. Yes, I have stood up to management and over the years have reached the point where management knows that they are probably wrong is we cannot resolve the issue.
DESTROY ALL THE JOBS THAT ARE UNIONIZED? ARE YOU KIDDING ME, THEY ARE ALREADY DESTROYED. IF THAT LAST PROPOSAL PASSED LIKE YOU WANTED IT TO THERE WOULD BE NOTHING LEFT!! Prove it. What do you know that leads you to believe that?
THIS PROPOSAL ISN’T ANY BETTER. I disagree with you.
TEAMSTERS LIKE ME MAKE YOU NERVOUS. Not at all. I have dealt with guys like you all my life. Hot air, quick to blame, always someone elses fault, but never has the solution.
ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS THE FACT THAT YOU ARE WORKING. WHETHER YOU THINK SO OR NOT SHIT STIRRERS LIKE ME MADE YOUR WORKPLACE A BETTER PLACE TO WORK. No, I care about my fellow employees and have proven that over and over. You will never convience me that shit stirrers like you have done anything to make the workplace a better place to work. Tell me one thing in your career that you did to make your workplace a better place to work. Remember, your stance resulted in you not having a job. That is not progress or improvement.
WE STOOD UP TO THE COMPANYS SO THAT YOU DIDN’T HAVE TO. Sorry, didn’t know that you represent everyone else.
WHAT DO YOU BRING TO THE TABLE AT YOUR JOB? Productivity and performance and solutions to problems.
DO YOUR JOB, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT, TAKE THE GREAT UNION BENEFITS THAT THE TEAMSTERS NEGOTATED FOR YOU (PROBABLY THINK THE COMPANY WOULD GIVE YOU ALL THOSE HOLIDAYS,SICK DAYS,VACATIONS,HEALTH BENEFITS….ECT ON THEIR OWN). DO YOU GIVE ANYTHING BACK OR JUST TAKE? Look in the mirror and tell me what you have done. And don’t say took on the company. That is nothing. Again, what have you done that has improved your job, the job of the guys at your terminal, or the industry?
THE ONLY UNION INVOLVEMENT YOU HAVE IS ALLIED SYSTEMS TAKES YOUR DUES MONEY OUT EVERY MONTH. Again, you are talking out your ass and know nothing about what your saying.
BE THANKFUL THERE ARE TEAMSTERS LIKE ME AT THE WORKPLACE AND POSTING HERE. IF ITS WASN’T FOR US THAT LAST PIECE OF SHIT CONTRACT WOULD HAVE PASSED. WE MAKE THIS UNION BETTER!! Again, tell me how. Not just idle words.
YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM!! NO NEED TO THANK ME NOW THAT YOU HAVE BEEN ENLIGHTENED. OH!! BY THE WAY I WILL ONCE AGAIN VOTE NO ON THIS PROPOSAL. Your right to do so.
ALSO, GIVE US SOME IDEAS ON HOW WE WILL ORGANIZE THE NON-UNION CARRIERS. I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO SEE THEM. PLEASE LEAD,FOLLOW OR GET OUT OF THE WAY!! Your the one with all the answers, you tell me how we go about organizing. I am all for the grass roots form of talking man to man, one man at a time and them small groups and then the larger groups. Over and over until they see the benefits of being unionized. Unfortunately they see and hear guys like you and say to themselves, why organize if guys like 25 are just out to destroy the employers and put them out of business.
What is your grand plan to save union carhaul? Demanding a contract that will put the employers out of business? Again, what good is the greatest contract in the world if no one is working under it.
I do not advocate any sell out contract. However, look around you. You see the same minority of the employees at your terminal that take excessive time to run trips, always damaging vehicles and blaming someone else, filing for monies that they are not entitled to. Bitching about the company and never willing to offer a solution.
What solutions have you too offerred? I say we have to demand that the nonunion companies be organized.
I am not in denial, quite the opposite. I believe this industry has been in a decline for almost 10 - 20 years. Just look at the loss of union jobs.
I voted for the Allied pay reduction because it sure beat the option of the company going into court and getting more reduction, eliminating the contract, and who knows what would have happended to my benefits. At least I have the opportunity to work smarter and make up the wage loss. Unfortunately there are a number of guys I work with that cannot make up the loss because of the reduction in volumes and layoffs. But they would have been laid off at full rate.
We are obviously going to disagree. Become a part of the solution or get out of the way.
October 6th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
I KNOW DRIVERS AT ALLIED SYSTEMS DO NO LIKE TO HEAR IT BUT, YOU WERE PART OF THE REASON WHY PTS WENT OUT OF BUSINESS. YOU CAN JUSTIFY ALL YOU WANT. YOU VOTED A PAY CUT!! YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN THE SCABS OUT THERE UNDERCUTTING TEAMSTER CARHAULERS. IF ALLIED WANTED A TWENTY PERCENT PAY CUT I’M SURE—YOU—WOULD HAVE VOTED YES……JUST TO KEEP WORKING. YOU LOWERED THE WORKING CONDITIONS FOR US ALL. PTS SAW AN OPPORTUNITY TO PIG PILE ON THE BACKS OF THE HARD WORKING MEN AND WOMEN OF PTS AND TRIED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.IF THE ALLIED DRIVERS TOOK A PAY CUT WHY WOULDN’T THE PTS DRIVERS. WE STOOD UP AND SAID FUCK YOU. I WILL NOT EVEN TAKE THE TIME TO LIST THE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF WASTE WE WITNESSED IN BROOKFIELD. AND THAT IS ONLY A 60 MAN TERMINAL. BAD MANAGER AFTER BAD MANAGER. CARHAULING IS A TOUGH JOB—I’M SURE I DON’T HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT—-WHAT WE SAID, IS WE ARE—NOT—WILLING TO WORK FOR ANY THING LESS. I’VE ALREADY HEARD THE HORROR STORIES FROM MY FORMER CO-DRIVERS WHAT A SHITTY RUN COMPANY ALLIED SYSTEMS IS, EVEN WORSE THAN PTS. ALIIED SYSTEMS HAS NEVER SERVICED A CUSTOMER IN THEIR HISTORY. THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR FORTY PERCENT OF THE NON-UNION COMPANIES BEING IN BUSINESS FROM ALL THE BUSINESS ALLIED SYSTEMS HAS LOST OVER THE YEARS. AT LEASEWAY/PTS WE SERVICED TOYOTA MOTOR FOR TWENTY FIVE YEARS WITH NO LOSS OF BUSINESS, IT ONLY TOOK ALLIED SYSTEMS NINE WEEKS TO LOSE SIXTY PERCENT OF THE BUSINESS TO A NON-UNION CARRIER. THE WRONG COMPANY WENT OUT OF BUSINESS!!! IF YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN HOFFA AND BURKLE THEN YOU DONT’T SEE THE FOREST THROUGH THE TREES. RON BURKLE WANTS HIS MONEY BACK—HE WILL GET IT THROUGH—YOUR—SWEAT AND HARD WORK.LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE TRANSPORTATION HISTORY. NO UNIONISED TRUCKING COMPANY HAS EVER SURVIVED AFTER THE EMPLOYEES HAVE TAKEN A PAY CUT—NONE!!! YOU HAVE TWENTY MONTHS TO MAKE ALL THE MONEY YOU CAN BECAUSE THAT IS THE TIME FRAME THAT MR. BURLE NEEDS. NOTICE HOW THE SHITTY FORTY CENT PAY RAISE DOESN’T KICK IN UNTIL THE THIRD YEAR. DO THE MATH. THERE IS A PRETTY GOOD CHANCE YOU WON’T SEE IT. YOU DO ADVOCATE A SELLOUT—YOU—VOTED FOR A PAYCUT—YOU ARE A SELLOUT. ALSO, YOU HIGHLIGHTED THE BAD MANAGEMENT PRACTICES AT YOUR TERMINAL. ITS NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS WHAT OTHER DRIVERS DO!! WORRY ABOUT WHAT YOU DO. WE ARE DRIVERS—WE ARE NOT PAID TO MANAGE THE COMPANY—WHOSE FAULT IS IT THAT MANAGERS DON’T MANAGE? YOU? THE OTHER DRIVERS AT YOUR TERMINAL? THAT THEIR JOBS TO REPRIMAND DRIVERS NOT YOU. AS I READ YOUR POST I SAW BETWEEN THE LINES YOU ARE A COMPANY SUCK ASS—-COMPANY IS ALWAYS RIGHT—-DRIVERS ARE ALWAYS WRONG. GOOD LUCK TO YOU!! EVERYONE HAS TO WORK IF YOU DON’T MIND WORKING FOR WAGES THAT WE EARNED BACK IN THE EIGHTYS HAVE AT IT.
AS FOR ANY IDEAS I ALREADY POSTED MY SOLUTION AS A START—BALL LAPPER LIKE YOU DOESN’T WANT TO HEAR NOR DO THEY DO ANYTHING THAT ENVOLVES A JOB ACTION. MY ADVICE TO YOU JUST KEEP WORKING—-YOU ARE GOING TO NEED THE MONEY. REMEMBER, THE PTS DRIVERS, STRONG UNION BROTHERS AND SISTERS, DID YOU A FAVOR BY GOING ON STRIKE YET WE GET N O THANKS. WE DID WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE TAKEN THE CANCER OUT OF THE INDUSTRY BUT DIDN’T HAVE THE BALLS TO DO IT!!! MAN, THIS DUDE POSTS LIKE THAT OTHER P.O.S. SCAB COCKERSUCKER THAT USED TO POST ON HERE—-CAN’T REMEMBER HIS NAME!!!
October 7th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Carhauler 25. Try drinking less and you may gain some brain cells back and remember not only my name but why you actually post on here. You are dumb as a rock. You have been out of work all this time and still dont get it.
October 8th, 2008 at 11:38 am
YOU ARE A SCAB!!
October 8th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
NO ONE ON THE BOARD HAS EVER SEEN AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN AS WE SEE NOW IN THEIR LIFE TIME. I AM SURPRISED THEY OFFERED THE CONTRACT THEY DID. I’M NOT SURE ANY OF US ARE GOING TO BE AROUND BY JANUARY THE WAY IT IS GOING. THIS DOWNTURN IS GLOBAL WHICH WILL YET HAVE AN EFFECT ON US.
SO WITH ALL DUE RESPECT I FULLY INTEND TO VOTE FOR THIS CONTRACT. IT IS CLOSE TO WHAT WE HAVE NOW.
THIS TEAMSTER VOTES “YES”
October 8th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
You wont get a better contract and if you strike you will lose even more.
October 9th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
1987? WE SURVIVED BACK THEN. AS ALWAYS I RESPECT ANOTHER MEMBERS RIGHT TO VOTE THEIR CONSCIENCE. HOWEVER, HOW WILL WE EVER KNOW IF THIS IS THE BEST CONTRACT WE CAN GET ONCE IT PASSES? ONCE AGAIN THE COMPANYS AND THE UNION ARE PREYING ON THE MEMBERS FEAR. DID EVERY ONE FORGET ABOUT THE BONUSES THAT ALLIED SYSTEMS PAID TO THE EXECUTIVES? FOR WHAT?JUST EXACTLY DID THEY DO TO DESERVE THEM?? IF THE COMPANY IS PAYING BONUSES IT CAN’T BE DOING THAT BAD. IT’S JUST ANOTHER STEP BACKWARDS.
October 10th, 2008 at 1:13 am
They have to grease the brass to keep them from jumping ship. economics 101
October 10th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
you discharge employees that are not doing their jobs. hire new and better managers, just like scabs they can always find managers that will work for less. thats economics 101. the managers they have are not getting it done. the only reason management rewards poor management by paying bonuses to executives of a failing company is upper management does not believe in the long term viability of the company. get mine now syndrome.
October 10th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
You are thinking to low. The terminal managers dont get the grease. The grease goes to the execs at the top. Terminal managers can be replaced as easily as you can be.
Carhauler 25 why are you hanging around? why dont you go back to school and get into a different line of work. Do this industry a favour.
October 13th, 2008 at 10:14 am
I WASN’T REFERING TO THE TERMINAL MANAGERS. MY POINT WAS THAT THE SHITTY EXECUTIVES THAT ALLIED HAS SHOULD BE FIRED. IT IS YOU THAT IS YOU, AND I USE THE TERM LOOSELY, THAT IS THINKING TO LOW. THE UPPER MANAGEMENT SUCKS AT ALLIED AND IN NO WAY SHOULD BE REWARDED FOR RUNNING THAT COMPANY INTO THE GROUND. BONUSES? GIVEING THE DRIVERS MONEY BACK WILL GO FURTHER TO RESTOREING THE COMPANY MORAL AND PRODUCTIVITY THAN ANY EXECUTIVE BONUSES EVER WILL.
October 14th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Carhauler 25 All you do in these blogs is insult people for their opinions. Why dont you concentrate your anger into getting a job.
I sure hope you dont think about becoming a writer. ” it is you that is you” ????? never mind dont explain.
Good luck in your new carreer.!!!!!!!!
October 18th, 2008 at 7:07 am
IM NOT INSULTING ANYONE JUST CORRECTING ANTI-WORKER, ANTI-UNION, DISINFORMATION THAT IS POSTED HERE,THATS ALL. HOPEFULLY I DIDN’T HURT YOUR FEELINGS!! YOU FUCKING SCAB!!
October 19th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
Im pro worker, pro union and anti cry baby. Anyways the working class wont take advice from the unemployed. You are a whimpering little boy who thinks everyone owes you a living. The working carhaulers will decide their own fate without your self serving advice. Hopefully my comments dont hurt your feelings Carhauler 25
ps get a job ya bumm…