Wall RSS FeedCarhaul Members Vote to Reject National Agreement
Teamster Leaders Will Identify Workers’ Concerns
August 12, 2008
Teamster carhaul members have voted to reject the proposed 2008-2011 National Master Automobile Transporters Agreement and all of its supplements.
Throughout the 2008-2011 contract negotiations, the union sought first and foremost to preserve and protect the members’ job security and job opportunities in an auto industry that is suffering from economic upheaval.
“The proposed agreement eliminated various restrictions so that our contracted employers could haul more cars, thereby providing additional job opportunities to our members and protecting their job security,” said Fred Zuckerman, Teamsters Carhaul Division Director. “However, our members have made it clear that they do not accept the proposal.”
“Now that the ballots have been counted and the contract has been rejected, we plan to speak to our members and our carhaul local union leaders to discuss the issues behind this defeat,” Zuckerman said. “We will get our members’ input on the issues that concern them. We understand that our members are worried and angry about the difficult economic conditions facing the auto and carhaul industries. We hope to resolve this contract without going on strike.”
August 13th, 2008 at 2:24 am
Remember this one?
Lets see how they did
National Agreement Vote Yes, vote No Supplement Vote Yes, Vote No
Local 299——————-243——–244—————————235———–252
Local 449——————–42———24—————————-41————25
Local 25———————15———36—————————-16————36
August 13th, 2008 at 2:35 am
Carhaul Concessionary Contract Rejected
August 12, 2008: Rank-and-file carhaulers have flexed their muscles and decisively rejected a tentative agreement loaded with concessions.
Their vote will send union negotiators back to bargain a more acceptable contract.
Tom Landwehr, a rank-and-file observer told us from the count site in Maryland that “I was nervous about it this morning, but the No votes just kept piling. I feel good about our own Local 327—we had a good vote there. The members were just fed up with the massive concessions.”
Landwehr, a Jack Cooper driver, traveled from Nashville to Maryland on his own time and own dime to help ensure a fair vote, as did several others.
The national contract was rejected by 2,939 to 2,076, and all three supplements were rejected as well. The Central-Southern supplement was rejected 2,555 to 1,500, the East by 316 to 304, and the West by 184 to 171.
Most of the bigger locals where members haul out of auto assembly plants rejected the deal, some by big margins. It went down in Kansas City Local 41, St. Louis Local 604, Lansing Local 580, Ft. Wayne Local 414, Dallas Local 745, San Jose Local 287, Lordstown Local 377, Chicago Local 710, Moraine Ohio Local 957 and others. Most of the smaller locals rejected it as well.
It was the massive list of concessions, which would have gutted decades of hard-won contract protections, that sent the proposed agreement down to defeat.
It took something else to win this battle. It took a growing network of carhaul Teamsters, stewards and some local officers who worked together and with TDU to build solidarity and also to safeguard the vote process.
The time is now for the International Union to listen to the rank and file and make some serious improvements before coming back for another vote.
It’s time for rank-and-file carhaulers to continue to build a strong network that can carry the battle forward.
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August 13th, 2008 at 2:40 am
Hmm Something Extra I wonder if that Included TheCarhauler.com
August 13th, 2008 at 4:02 am
YEAH MAN, WE GET ANOTHER SHOT AT THE GOAL, LETS GET ER DONE BROTHERS.
August 13th, 2008 at 10:38 am
Yeah, Now it starts all over. I wonder what they going to do to us now. You know they want the 5 legs or trips or tours or whatever they are calling it. How long is this going to take? They must have known it was coming.
August 13th, 2008 at 11:10 am
I think for atleast today we can all breath a sigh of relief and enjoy our win over this terrible contract that was offered to us. But that is for today and today only, now is the time that we all need to push even harder and try to educate the rest of the members who just follow like lambs to the slaughter. The more people we can tell about our differant avenues of communication with each local the better we will all be even if we cannot all agree with each other we all need our voices heard. The IBT and The TDU both have there own feelings and the way they want stuff to go and I don’t see any where for our daily beliefs or comments that is why this type of site and others out there are so important to all of us and our way of life. Now is the time to tell as many carhaulers as you can and have them tell as many carhauls as they can by doing this we will get our voices heard and achieve a fair and equitable contract and future for all of us.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
All I can say is what a relief. Now they can throw this crap out and start again.
August 13th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
A HARD FOUGHT BATTLE. WE WON FOR NOW!! THE BROTHERHOOD KNOWS WE WON’T BE THROWN UNDER THE BUS. WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE SHITTY CONTRACTS. THE WORK HAS JUST BEGUN. COMMUNICATION IS THE KEY. THANKS TO CHAINS FOR THIS SITE. THE INTERNET IS THE BEST WEAPON WE HAVE TO GET A DECIENT CONTRACT. OUR VOICES HAVE BEEN HEARD!!! FAITH HAS BEEN RESTORED FOR OUR FELLOW CARHAULERS. REMEMBER, BROTHERS AND SISTERS STILL VOTED NOOO EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVEN’T BEEN PUT BACK TO WORK YET!!!! LETS MAKE THE INTERNATIONAL WORK FOR US. THEY HAVEN’T HAD TO IN A LONG TIME. MOST DRIVERS I TALK TO WILL ACCEPT THE CONTRACT STAYS INTACT WITH NO PAY RAISES FOR TWO YEARS AND A SNAP BACK CLAUSE FOR ALLIED SYSTEMS. THEN WE CAN NEGOTATE AS ONE TWO YEARS FROM NOW. ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU CHAINS FOR THIS WEB SITE!!! HOPE TO MEET DOWN THE ROAD. RAISE A BEER OR TWO!!! YES!! TO ALL THOSE NAYSAYERS ON THIS SITE WE STAND EVEN TALLER TODAY. WE DIDN’T TAKE IT IN THE SHORTS LIKE YOU WOULD HAVE HAD YOU VOTED.
August 13th, 2008 at 7:17 pm
WE WON 1 BATTLE NOW WE NEED TO WIN THE WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 14th, 2008 at 4:35 am
waits for “Leasewayover” to post… haha! what a tool
August 14th, 2008 at 10:22 am
While I, along with others were observing the process of gathering, grouping, separating and then counting the ballots, it is very clear there is much more work the members need to do to insure a “fair & accurate” vote count. The only real eligibility check for all ballots cast in this referendum, was done at the front end when they were mailed out. By the way, there were about 11075 ballots mailed out, but as I understand, less than 9,000 members in the carhaul industry. The number of returned ballots was unofficially, 5351. Granted, some members may be on lay off with 7 year recall rights which thankfully do allow them to vote…… but over 2000? really? How accurate could the “front end” check of eligibility have been? We were told such a large number of ballots were sent out so as to allow for the largest number of interested carhaulers to participate. What happed to sending out ballots to members who are eligible at that time, then counting the ballots of those who are eligible on the day of counting ballots? Was there an effort to “pad” the vote, fuzzy math or just trying to include more members? Every one of us members had better be asking, then insisting upon refining the process to make it accurate. Every ballot/vote should be determined if eligible or not, on the day of counting, and only those properly determined as eligible….to be counted.
By the way, there were over 254 ballots set aside as “challenged” from many locals, which were former PTS members. These ballots were not counted, citing that these members had NOT transferred or been hired onto a union carrier employment roster as of the day of counting ballots. Even though some of these members may within days or weeks be employed, their voices were silenced and votes NOT counted. Some of the NOT counted ballots of PTS members are as follows; Local Union#449 90 ballots, #964 33 ballots, #377 26 ballots, #25 18 ballots, #312 15 ballots, #560 13 ballots and the list goes on.
Many ballots were collected from members who had been retired, fired, quit etc. and were to be counted in the tally. Few were challenged and removed. Some of these had not been active carhaulers for a long time and were not eligible in any way shape or fashion, but without an eligibility check for each ballot at the time of ballot counting, many were and will be part of the official tally. Like having a blind quality control inspector checking paint jobs as vehicles roll off an assembly line!
Members need to assert and expand their rights to observe and challenge during every referendum ballot count. Several of the observers, myself included were always watching, noting, asking questions and taking notes. Several were not, content to just sit in a chair, silently taking no notes. They either had photographic memories thus requiring no notes, and telepathic thus requiring no questions, or they were there for other reasons? The process was civil and courteous, all questions asked were answered. I do wish to credit those who played a role in insuring this atmosphere.
I am happy to be part of TDU’s efforts in the battle for “observer” rights, and respectfully ask ALL members to consider getting off the bench and onto the field by joining the TDU network of members who ARE making a difference. If you have reservations or questions about TDU, that is great. I too, many years ago had to the same. However, I asked the hard questions, researched to know the “heart & intentions” of this organization, the history of the many great acheivements TDU & teamster members have accomplished which benefited rank and file members………when the “home work” and “research” is done….. you too can feel fine in joining this excellent organization of fine folks with honorable goals and ambitions! There will be rumors and nay sayers, make them prove their points or acuzations. Ususally it goes like this about negative comments about TDU ….I say show me? *&^&%&^*&&($##@ (foul language) pours out, but substance or truth is absent in the response. There is much work to be done, to those who know this to be true, I challenge you to help in getting it done. Log onto the TDU web site to get informed and involved! Semper Fi!
This Discussion continued on the Forum located here
August 14th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Hoodwink seeing as you love my posts so much I will add this……..
The next offer isnt going to be much to dance for so enjoy the moment.
August 14th, 2008 at 6:18 pm
leasewayover are in mangement because this is about getting a good contract for eveyone you idiot .If they come back with a crappy offer we will vote no on it too. I think you just like to get a rise out of the real teamsters on this site.bye the way i sure would like to meet you leasewayover .I just need about five minutes of your time please let me know thank you leasewayover for your time and I hope you get want you want out of this contract although i dont think your going to get fred to marry you
August 15th, 2008 at 11:05 am
Texasjumper…. You will have to strike to get what you are looking for. Im sure your company can bare the fruits of a strike for a day or two. As far as getting a rise out of Teamster drivers, you guys are reacting quite predictably and not by any desire of mine. If in fact I am getting Teamsters to rise up and defend and post their issues, you should be thanking me.
Im sure this site was designed not only for your opinion but also for different views that might inspire some debate. Your one minded approach to these posts indicates your lack of intelligence ,lucky for you that you dont need to be smart to post here.
August 15th, 2008 at 11:45 am
I MUST BE ONE OF THOSE LOCAL 25 BALLOTS THAT WEREN’T COUNTED I’M NOT BACK YET. ALLIED IS FIGHTING TOOTH AND NAIL ABOUT HIRING THE FOUR JOBS LEFT FROM THE PANEL DECISION. STEWARD TOLD A FRIEND OF MINE ALLIED HAS NO INTENTION OF HIRING ME. WE WILL SEE ABOUT THAT!!! IT WILL BE SO MUCH FUN WORKING FOR ALLIED KNOWING THAT FACT. AS MOST UNION CARHAULERS KNOW I HAVE THER RIGHT CONTRACTUALLY TO FOLLOW MY WORK. I’M NUMBER TWO OUT OF FOUR ALLIED HAS TO DO THE MATH. RUMOR HAS IT THEY ARE TRYING TO CONTACT FOUR OR FIVE DECESED MEMBERS HOPEING THEY CAN COME BACK TO WORK. THEY THINK I WAS A BOMB TOSSER AT PTS THEY HAVEN’T SEEN NOTHING YET. REST ASSURED WE WILL HAVE TO WALK TO GET A DECENT CONTRACT SO BE PREPARED. GET YOUR DUCKS IN A ROW AND BE PREPARED.
August 15th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Hey carhauler25 once you break it off in Allied up there why don’t you try a transfer to Tampa, Fla we sure could use a few more with type of attitude down here to help in the fight and good luck! ohh Leasewayover you also would be welcome down down here we sure would show some southern hospitality to you late at night 10-4
August 15th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Follow your work was never intended to protect deadbeat troublemakers. Carhauler 25 you should be on your knees begging for a job and it should show you what you are worth when a company doesnt want to hire you. Dont be so sure that the union is prepared to fight for someone with your attitude. What ever happened to hard work and ethics. Any union representitive will tell you that its hard to fight from the outside in. You have no clout on the unemployment line, they can hang you out to dry for as long as they want.
August 15th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
GONZO, YOU KNOW SCOTT RONDELLI? HE USED TO WORK WITH ME IN MASSACHUSETTS. I KNOW ANYONE THAT STANDS UP FOR THEIR CONTRACTUAL RIGHTS IS DEEMED A TROUBLEMAKER. AS FOR BEING A DEADBEAT I AVERAGED 64 HOURS A WEEK AND 9.25 LOADS PER WEEK WITH A .025 DAMAGE RATE. THATS A DEADBEAT??? THIS IS FROM A RAILHEAD. I ATTEND EVERY UNION MEETING, AM ACTIVE IN NUMEROUS CHARITYS SPONSORED BY LOCAL 25. BLOOD BANK, AUTISM WALKS AND FUNCTIONS, TOYS FOR TOTS. I HAVE ALSO BEEN ON NUMEROUS STRIKE LINES. NOT ONLY MY OWN. I HAVE WALKED IN SUPPORT OF OTHERS ON MY TIME. I AM THE TYPE OF MEMBER THAT THE TEAMSTERS NEED AND WANT. BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY,THE BUSINESS AGENTS KNOW WHO I AM. MY BUSINESS AGENT WILL NOT HANG ME OUT TO DRY AS YOU SAY. I WILL BE ONE OF THE NEXT FOUR DRIVERS THAT ALLIED HIRES. I HAVE NOOOOO DOUBT!!!! THEY HAVEN’T SEEN ANYTHING YET!!! I’M ALREADY SHARPENING MY GREIVENCE PEN!!! ITS NOT JUST ME THERE IS THREE OTHER DRIVERS WAITING FOR WORK THAT ALLIED IS FUCKING WITH ALSO. FUCK ALLIED TOO!!! I HAVE NEVER BEGGED FOR A JOB IN MY WHOLE LIFE. I’M A UNION MEMBER. THATS WHAT PIECES OF SHIT SCABS LIKE YOU JOHN HAVE TO DO. THATS ALL YOU GOT!!! YOUR A SUCKASS, YOU DON’T WANT A UNION AROUND BECAUSE YOU CAN SUCK THE MANAGEMENTS COCKS TO GET A BETTER PAYING LOAD THAN YOU SHOULD. YOU DON’T BELIEVE IN SENORITY,YOU BELIEVE IN SUCKASSING. HAVE FUN CRAWLING INTO DISPATCH TOMORROW ON YOUR BELLY TO GET NEXT LOAD(IN THE MOUTH) FROM THE DISPATCHERS. I’LL SAY IT AGAIN YOU ARE A SCAB,FUCKING, PIECE OF SHIT!!!
August 16th, 2008 at 5:33 am
Carhauler 25 Not everthing is written in stone and I can tell you once again that your are fighting from the outside which is a powerless place. Do you think Allied is worried about the repercussions of not hiring you?
Thats quite a resume would you like me to cut and paste it and send it to Allied for you?
August 16th, 2008 at 11:17 am
Carhauler25 I do know Rondelli he is the steward over in Orlando, we in Tampa and the Orlando terminal are going to be merging sometime in 2010 at a new railhead in the Winter Haven area of Central Fla. Our terminal manager used to be in Orlando and I know that Rondelli and him are like oil and water sort of fun to watch the two. Please don’t think that was me calling you a dead beat thats all Leasewayover you sort of went right into it over him
August 16th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
GONZO, I KNOW IT WASN’T YOU, THAT PIECE OF SHIT SCAB THAT THINKS ANYONE THAT STANDS UP FOR THEIR CON- TRACTUAL RIGHTS FOR HIMSELF AND OTHERS IS AN IDIOT. BOY IS HE WRONG!!! ITS THE MEMBERS WHO DON’T STAND UP FOR THEIR RIGHTS THAT HURT EVERYONE. SCOTT’S GOOD GUY SAYS HE TRIES TO KEEP THE COMPANY IN LINE. TOUGH JOB!!! TRYING TO DO HIS BEST. THIS PTS THING FUCKED EVERYTHING UP. JUST TO PUT IT OUT THERE COULD YOU LIVE WITH THE CANTRACT LANGUAGE WILL STAY THE SAME,TWO YEAR CONTRACT,NO PAY RAISES? SNAP BACK CLAUSE FOR ALLIED IN WRITING TO FULL RATE? TWO YEARS WE WILL AT LEAST ALL BE ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. I’M STILL PISSED MY BALLOT GOT CHALLENGED!! MY DUES ARE PAID IN FULL AND I’M NOT ON WITHDRAWL. RUMOR HAS IT THERE IS 400 UNITS AT COTTRELL FOR ALLIED THEY ARE JUST WAITING FOR THE CONTRACT TO BE SETTLED. BUSINESS AGENTS HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT IN THE SHORTS ANY LONGER. WE HAVE STEPPED BACK AND STEPPED BACK FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS WITH CONSESSIONARY CONTRACTS. NO MORE!!! ITS LIKE WE ARE JUST GLORIFIED SCABS. CARHAULERS IN THE PAST FOUGHT TOOTH AND NAIL FOR OUR WORKING CONDITIONS, BENEFITS, ECT.,ECT., JUST TO THROW IT AWAY? MAYBE THE SCABS WIN, I WON’T GO DOWN WITHOUT A FIGHT, ALLIED GOES OUT OF BUSINESS, SO BE IT.
IF THAT HAPPENS THERE WILL NOT BE ANYTHING WORTH SAVING. THE SCABS CAN HAVE CARHAUL. JUST IMAGINE IF I DON’T HAVE ANY POWER. WHAT PULL DO YOU THINK YOU HAVE WITH ALLIED YOU SCAB,COCKSUCKING, PIECE OF SHIT. I CERTAINLY DO NOT NEED YOUR HELP. SCAB!!! JUST KEEP WORKING FOR SHIT LIKE YOU DO. I HAVE NOTHING BUT TIME!!
August 16th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Yes I would vote for a 2 year deal status quo with a full snap back into full wage then maybe the economy and industry will be in a better shape to properly negotiate a good contract and you bet your ass we will have to have a large pay incease then or like you say just lock them down and we all look for work somewhere else but with our heads held high
August 16th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
does anyone know who and where leasewayover is i would like to know
August 16th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
GOT A QUESTION, THE PTS TERMINALS THAT ALLIED TOOK OVER, ARE THE DRIVERS BEING PAID FULL RATE, OR DO THEY HAVE TO TAKE THE 17% CUT.
THE AGREEMENT THAT PTS DRIVERS WOULD TAKE A CUT, WHEN THE ALLIED DRIVERS VOTED TO CHANGE THERE AGREEMENT WITH THE TEAMSTERS, DID THAT TAKE EFFECT EVEN IF THEY DIDN’T BUY PTS???
August 16th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Texasjumper who and where are you and how did you get here and where do you think you will be going from here?
This is like chatting with grade 6 children.
Yes Carhauler 25 this is the time to stop the concessions…. right smack in the middle of a recession……
good luck…… Your rates were fought for in good times not in bad times ya dummy…. I will say that you are lucky that who ever is negotiating for you doesnt have your child like mentality.
You might as well step aside and let the non union carriers take it all because that is where its heading…….
Good luck with your next job I
August 16th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
I tell you if it Rates Get lower than they are the Non Union can Have it and Compete against them self’s till it’s 10 an hour with no Benefits.
No, I’m not giving up nothing.
August 17th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
ONCE AGAIN FUCKFACE, YOU ARE SPEWING YOUR SCAB ANTI-UNION, ANTI-WORKER BULLSHIT. I’M SAYING LEAVE THE CONTRACT AS IS FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS WITH NOOO PAY INCREASE. LET ME SAY AGAIN NOOO PAY INCREASE. OF COARSE YOU BELIEVE WE ARE OVERPAID AND UNDERWORKED AND SHOULD BE TAKING AN EVEN LARGER PAYCUT DOWN TO YOUR LEVEL. BECAUSE YOU ARE A FUCKING SCAB!!! THATS THE ONE THING YOU CANNOT OVERCOME!!!! YOU HAVE NO CREDABILITY ON THIS SITE. THE ONLY CHANGETO THE CONTRACT AS IT STANDS IS A SNAP BACK CLAUSE FOR THE ALLIED SYSTEM DRIVERS TO FULL RATE IN TWO YEARS!!!!! NO PAY INCREASES FOR TWO YEARS, THATS WHAT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO COMPETE WITH YOU SCABS. JUST THINK YOU CAN’T EVEN THINK ABOUT ASKING FOR A RAISE NOR HAVE THE SACK TO ASK!! THE REASON THE CONTRACT PROPOSAL FAILED WE ARE TIRED OF THE CONSESSIONARY CONTRACTS. EVEN AN IDIOT WOULD HAVE TO ADMIT THE STATE OF THE CARHAUL INDUSTRY IS NOT GOOD. CHAINSDRAGING IS RIGHT IF THIS INDUSTRY GETS ANY WORSE YOU FUCKING SCABS CAN HAVE IT!!! YOU WILL BE MAKING $10 AN HOUR AND NO BENEFITS WITH NO COMPETITION. WHAT WOULD STOP THE REMAINING COMPANYS TO PAY $8 AN HOUR? BELIEVE ME THEY WILL FIND SOMEONE TO HAUL THE UNITS. WHERE WILL YOU BE THEN? JUST LOOK AT ALL THOSE 3 CAR CARRIERS OUT THERE. ONCE THE SCABS GET ALL THE WORK THERE WILL BE NOTHING LEFT TO FIGHT FOR. HAVE AT IT!! AT LEAST WE HAVE CONVICTION TO TAKE A STAND, WE KNOW OUR SELF WORTH, WE UNDERSTAND JUST HOW DIFFUCULT THE JOB IS, WE KNOW OUR TRADE IS A SKILLED TRADE, WE WANT TO GET PAID FOR IT!!! NOT TO PUT THE COMPANYS OUT OF BUSINESS, BUT TO ONLY GET OUR FAIR SHARE. A SPINELESS SCAB PIECE OF SHIT LIKE YOU WOULDN’T UNDERSTAND THIS. YOU HAVE BELIEVED ANYTHING YOUR COMPANYS HAVE TOLD YOU YOUR WHOLE SCAB LIFE. BELIEVE IT OR NOT THE POWERS THAT BE PLAY US AGAINST EACH OTHER. UNITED WE STAND,STRENGTH IN NUMBERSAND SO ON AND SO ON. TRUE SCABS DON’T WANT A UNION, THEY DON’T BELIEVE IN SENORITY. IF THERE IS SENORITY THEY CAN’T BALL LAP THE BOSSES TO GET SPECIAL TREATMENT. IT IS WHAT IT IS!! OUR VICTORY IS A VICTORY FOR THE WHOLE INDUSTRY! SCABS LIKE YOU SHOULD BE CHEERING US ON TO GET THE BEST CONTRACT WE CAN. YOU WON’T ADMIT IT BUT WE DIRECTLY AFFECT YOUR PAY AND WORKING CONDITIONS. YOU HAVE NO BALLS, YOUR JEALOUS SCAB PIECE OF SHIT. WHEN YOU WERE WITH E&L I’LL EVEN BET YOU NEVER FILED A GRIEVENCE. THE COMPANY FUCKED YOU OUT OF MONEY YOU JUST TOOK IT. YOU HAVE BEEN TAKING IT IN THE ASS BY COMPANYS YOUR WHOLE LIFE, YOUR A CHICKENSHIT MOTHERFUCKER. I AM SO GLAD YOU ARE NO LONGER IN MY UNION!!!! YOU BRING NOTHING TO THE TABLE NEVER HAD NEVER WILL. AS I SEE IT EITHER YOUR WITH US OR YOUR DEFINATELY AGAINST US. I AM PROUD TO BE A SECOND GENERATION TEAMSTER. NOTHING A SCAB LIKE YOU CAN SAY WILL CHANGE THAT. BUT, THEN AGAIN YOU MUST ALSO BE VERY PROUD TO BE A SECOND GENERATION, FUCKING, SPINELESS, PIECE OF SHIT, SCAB ALSO!! KEEP IN MIND I HAVE NOTHING BUT TIME TO COUNTERACT YOUR ANTI-UNION RHEORTIC(LOOK THAT UP!!) EVERY TIME YOU POST.
August 17th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
TEXASCARHAULER, I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR BROOKFIELD,MA TERMINAL. THEY HAVE A UNIQUE SITUATION. ALLIED TOOK OVER THE TOYOTA WORK WHICH IS NEW WORK PAID AT FULL RATE. THEY ALSO HAVE HONDA WHICH IS PAID AT CUT RATE.
ANY NEW BUSINESS SHOULD BE PAID AT FULL RATE. DRIVERS PICK A TOYOTA LOAD FULL RATE, DRIVERS PICK A HONDA LOAD CUT RATE ITS CRAZY. THE FIGHT GOES ON. WHAT THE FUCK DOES SUCKERMAN THINK HE IS GOING TO LEARN FROM SENDING US A QUESTIONAIRE? HE’S A USELESS PIECE OF SHIT? I KNOW I WILL BE PUTTING MY TWO CENTS WORTH IN!!
August 17th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
SAME OLD BULLSHIT AS LAST TIME WE TOLD HIM WHAT WE WANTED WHEN HE CAME TO THE MEETING BEFORE THE LAST CONTRACT, YET EVERYTHING THEY SENT US SAID THEY WERE GOING TO PROTECT OUR JOB SECURITY, AND BENIFITS, SOMEHOW HE DIDN’T CONNECT THE DOTS THAT JOB SECURITY MEANT ATLEAST THE SAME PAY, NOT NO PAY CUT,
LEASEWAYOVER YOU ARE A PIECE OF SHIT, THAT’S PRETTY MUCH THE CONCENNSES OF EVERYBODY ON HERE, YOU DON’T EVEN HAVE THE BALLS TO SAY IF YOUR IN MANAGEMENT OR WITH THE UNION, WHICH MOST OF US AT THIS TIME ARE FEELING THAT’S ONE IN THE SAME, AND AS FAR AS THE PEOPLE THAT NEGOTIATED THIS POS CONTRACT , FOR US TO VOTE ON, ALL THE BA’S THAT SIGNED OFF ON IT, ALL THE WAY UP TO SUCKERMAN NEEDS REPLACED, I DON’T THINK THAT THEY KNOW WHERE THEY COME FROM, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO PUT THEM BACK IN A TRUCK, INSTEAD OF NOT REALLY CARING ABOUT THE DRIVERS THAT THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO BE REPRESENTING.
EVEN IF THEY WERE TO FREEZE EVERYTHING , AND THE COMPANIES WERE TO PONY UP THE .85 CENTS AN HOUR FOR BENIFITS, THAT WOULD BE A CONCESSIONARY CONTRACT, AND MOST OF US ARE WILLING TO DO THAT, VERIZON EMPLOYEES JUST GOT A 11% RAISE OVER 3 YEARS, IN THIS POS ECONOMY,….
THE UNION NEEDS TO MEET WITH THE COMPANIES NOW, WORK IT OUT, FREEZE EVERYTHING AND GET A VOTE ON IT, RIGHT NOW THEY ARE WASTING TIME, AND THE AUTOMAKERS ARE MAKING PLANS FOR ANOTHER INTERRUPTION IN THERE VEHICLE DELIVERY, THIS IS ON THE FRONT BURNER FOR THEM, GETTING THIS CONTRACT SETTLE SHOULD BE ON THE FRONT BURNER OF THE UNION INSTEAD OF WASTING TIME WITH SOME BULLSHIT NEWSLETTER.
August 17th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
Carhauler you are presuming that I am a non union carrier. I am someone who has a different opinion and that is all any of you need to know. You are a bunch of crybabys and are the cancer of the carhaul industy. The industy was built on the hard workers who didnt cry and grieve over every little issue almost making it impossible for dispatchers to do their jobs . You may want to research your data on what non union carriers make today.
They are doing quite well
and they can stand on their own two feet when they need to unlike the union carrier who depends on the union for everything just like children do with their parents. You get stuck in a pattern of dependency.
I know you have the time to respond to my posts and you should get used to this fact. This is my point. Your actions have left you without a job. Can your pride and glory buy the groceries?
You will be very lucky to get a pay freeze
The whole industy needs to be fixed and you are the problem and once you realise that fact you might start making better choices.
August 18th, 2008 at 1:24 am
The Olympic trials for Carhaul negotiators is complete. There will be no Gold, Silver or Bronze medals awarded to each of those who tried to sell the sorry concessionary proposals to the members. Voted down by a margin of about 60% to 40% by rank and file Carhaulogists across the nation, the only medals or “metal” this entire panel has earned, should be from the members steel toe boots in the hiney….. but NO medals! The employers however, are hoping to use them again, as a kind of second string, slight of hands, shell game, giveaway committee! Boy Scout motto……Be Prepared! Our industry is still bleeding from all the other sell outs and giveaways from the last two contracts. Remember those? A bonus in lieu of a pay raise? A two year wage freeze? New Business language that built in likely incentives to “loose” or “give” away traffic, then later bid as “New Business” for half rate? New Business half rates that never snap back to full or frozen rate?
As the line between a Strong Contract and Strong Sellout get blurrier, members must speak out to our General President…..enough is enough! Leopards don’t change their spots. Clean house of those who have been “weighed and measured and been found wanting”……… wanting more concessions! Saying or voting yes to “Concession Addicts” will only perpetuate the addictions. A good healthy dose of loud and clear “NO”s from the membership is a reality check which is long overdue! We must stop the “bleeding”! Have any of the concessions given over the last two contracts ever put members in better circumstances? Did the seniority boards grow in numbers? Is there any organizing going on in our industry?
There is a Petition at the web site of Teamster Local 604 (www.teamster604.org) which can help drive our message home. Thank you John and all the members at Local 604, for standing up for all Carhaulogists, may your web site get so much traffic that the red phone in the marble palace……. melts down!
Every member should call their Local Union to “insure” they have the correct mailing address and current information. Every member should get in the loop and stay tuned into every aspect of these negotiations. The TDU web site (www.tdu.org) is an effect resource for this effort. And, if we Carhaulogists really want to have a much louder voice in these matters, I sincerely suggest you get off the bench and onto the playing field by signing up for the “contract updates” and joining as a member! It will likely be the best $40.00 you have ever spent! Stop Concession Addiction, Vote NO! Semper Fi!
Discussion Continued in Forum
August 18th, 2008 at 2:10 am
LEASEWAYOVER THE PROBLEM IS YOU DON’T COMPREHEND WHAT YOU READ, YOUR WORSE THAN MY 3 YEAR OLD, READ THE SECOND PARAGRAPH OF MY ABOVE POST, IT READS “LEASEWAYOVER YOUR A PIECE OF SHIT” I’M NOT PRESUMING THAT YOUR A NON-UNION CARRIER,,,,,,, WHERE I’M AT WE DON’T CRY AND WE DON’T GRIEVE EVERY LITTLE ISSUE, WHEN THERE IS PROBLEMS WE TRY TO SOLVE THEM, BECAUSE IF WE SEND A GRIEVENCE TO THE PANEL, IS LIKE SENDING IT DOWN THE RIVER, IF THERE IS 3 COMPANY PEOPLE, AND 3 UNION ON THE PANEL WORSE CASE SCENERIO IS DEADLOCKED AND GOES TO NATIONAL, INSTEAD EVEN THE CLEAR CUT WINNERS ARE SENT BACK DENIED,,,, AND AS FAR AS WHAT NON-UNION DRIVERS ARE MAKING I’M AWARE OF IT, IT’S AS MUCH AS I MAKE, SO WHAT WOULD THE UNION BE PUTTING ON THE TABLE IF THEY EVER TRIED TO ORGANIZE ONE OF THESE NON-UNION CARRIERS, IF WE GET A 30% PAYCUT THEY COULD OFFER THAT, THEY WILL BE STANDING IN LINE,,, AND AS FAR AS MY ACTIONS LEAVING ME WITHOUT A JOB, THAT’S NOT HAPPENING HERE IN FACT THE COMPANY THAT I WORK FOR HAS GROWN PROBABLY BY A THIRD THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, HAVE TAKEN OVER TERMINALS WHERE ALLIED WAS PAYING 17% LESS, AND STILL MAKING MONEY, WHAT’S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE, LET’S SEE PRIVATE EQUITY GROUP OWNED COMPANY PAYING 17% LESS LOSES BUSINESS, X-ALLIED DRIVERS GET 17% RAISE, BECAUSE A WELL RUN COMPANY ISN’T PLAYING ANY BANKRUPTCY GAMES TO CUT LABOR CUTS,SOUNDS LIKE A WIN, WIN ,. I’VE GOT TIME TO RESPOND TO YOUR POST BECAUSE I DIDN’T FALL FOR THE UNION’S AND COMPANIES PLOY TO GET A POS CONTRACT VOTED IN, IF IT WAS VOTED IN I WOULD HAVE PROBABLY STARTED MY 5 TOURS WHATEVER THAT IS ON THURSDAY AND STILL BE GONE, AND THAT WAS A GOOD CHOICE, AND I’M BEGINNING TO THINK WITH THE ECONOMY TURNING AROUND I MIGHT EVEN NOT BE SATISFIED WITHOUT A COLA IN THE NEXT CONTRACT, MAYBE PENSION PAID FOR ALL DAYS WORKED INSTEAD OF JUST 5 , THE WHOLE INDUSTRY DOESN’T NEED TO BE FIXED, ALL THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE THE IS UNION NEEDS TO GET OFF IT’S KNEES, TELL THE COMPANY WHAT WE WANT, AND IF THEY DON’T GET IT, WE WALK, PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
August 18th, 2008 at 8:14 am
I DON’T PRESUME ANYTHING. I DO KNOW THAT YOU ARE AN ANTI-WORKER, ANTI-UNION,PIECE OF SHIT, SCAB. ENOUGH SAID!!
August 18th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Texas I wasnt talking to you. Pay attention. My only reference to you is when I call you all cry babys.
Carhauler 25 ” Enough said” is the most meaningful thing you have posted.
Now you can all cry till the sun burns out about whos fault it is but that wont change the path you have created for yourselves. It s actually sad reading your posts because I truely once had respect for this segment of the industry. You guys have been pampered for to long so I do understand its hard for you to try to come out of that umbrella of protection.
But when you do the real world will be here waiting for you.
Good luck!!!!
August 18th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
I can’t wait until we lock the gates and close down these F’N comp and turn it over to the scabs
Where they will stab each other trying to get a load to cover the price of fuel to get back to their home states
Ahhh No one left to set the Price against, the Teamsters are gone.
10 an hr and heading down, no benefit,s almost never home, rusted out trucks, Sweet huh
Yupers, an open market with an unknown future.
At first it will be great, so many cars to haul. Everybody will be getting trucks
But then supply will catch up with demand and everyone will compete to get the next load.
August 18th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
AMEN MY BROTHER!!! LAST ONE OUT OF TOWN SHUT OUT THE LIGHTS!!! CHAINSDRAGING REMEMBER, WHEN YOU ARGUE WITH AN IDIOT THERE ARE TWO IDIOTS ARGEUEING. THE BATTLE HAS JUST BEGUN!!!
August 19th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
The market dictates rates not Teamsters.
August 19th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
The Teamsters set the pay scales for the entire industry and then the market must adjust accordingly
August 19th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Yes that is Correct (market dictates rates)
But you can not pay the Non union to far off from the Teamster Rate or the employees will organize on you.
You Must Offer A Competitive Rate. Many times they may offer better pay to make you feel good, but
with no Benefits you are really making nothing.
How much is health care? Do you have a Retirement? What if you break your leg? Can you pay for that truck?
August 21st, 2008 at 2:26 am
You are confusing non union carriers with brokers. If you did some research on the subject you would have found that non union companys have benefit plans and pension plans for company drivers. There is no advantage that Teamsters can give you over the non union carriers as far as benefits and wages. Oh I forgot >>>> you can go on strike. How has that worked for you lately.
With your closed borders the cost of moving vehicles between the countries is to expensive. Open borders will be in your future and that means Canadians doing dealer deliveries in the USA.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:39 am
Soon our Gov will release 25 million illegal Immigrants as new citizens that will compete for our jobs. It’s over anyway.
Cars will be manufacture in Mexico and Delivered by Mex Drivers all the way to Canada.
SO LETS GET WHAT WE CAN WHILE WE CAN WOOOOOOO :)
Feel better Leaseway
Oh and Thanks for sparking up some conversation been kind of quiet
August 21st, 2008 at 11:28 am
YES, WHAT THAT P.O.S. FAILS TO MENTION THE NON-UNION DRIVERS PAY FOR THEIR OWN HEALTHCARE. EMPLOYEES PAY OUT OF THEIR POCKETS. THESE COMPANYS DO NOT HAVE PENSION PLANS THEY HAVE 401K’S. IF YOU ARE PAYING BIG CO-PAYS AND THE COST OF LIVING HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK MOST DRIVERS CAN CONTRIBUTE TO 401K’S?? TELL ME HOW AN EMPLOYEE CAN AFFORD TO CONTRIBUTE TO A 401K WHEN THEY ARE PAYING FOR HEALTH CARE AND DAILY LIVING EXPENSES. JUST BECAUSE A COMPANY HAS A BENEFIT WHAT GOOD IS IT IF VERY FEW EMPLOYEES CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE?? I ALSO, I FORGOT WHAT ABOUT DENTAL AND EYEGLASSES WHICH WE HAVE FULLY FUNDED BY THE EMPLOYER. NOT AVAILABLE AT SCAB COMPANY UNLESS THE DRIVER PAYS FOR IT OUT OF HIS OR HER POCKET. NOT TO MENTION SICK DAYS, HOLIDAYS, A REAL PAID VACATION, PAID BREAKDOWN, AND A HOST OF OTHER GREAT WORKING CONDITIONS. BENEFITS ARE THE PRICE COMPANYS PAY TO ATTRACT GOOD, QUALIFIED, EMPLOYEES. ALL GREAT COMPANYS OFFER BENEFIT PACKAGES. NON-UNIONISED DRIVERS ALSO GET PAID ON AVERAGE $400 PER WEEK FOR VACATIONS. HAVE FUN TRYING TO GO TO DISNEYLAND ON $400. I ALMOST FOR GOT THERE IS ONLY ONE SCAB COMPANY THAT HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR TWENTY YEARS OR MORE!! RELIABLE WHICH IS A MOSTLY OWNER OPERATED COMPANY. MOST IMMIGRANT AND P.O.S. FORMER TEAMSTER DRIVERS CAN HARDLY AFFORD THE $400,000 FOR A TRUCK. THE AVERAGE TIME THAT A SCAB OPERATION KEEPS AND THAT IS THE KEY,(ANY COMPANY CAN SCAB THE WORK),IS THREE AND A HALF YEARS!!! JUST LONG ENOUGH TO FUCK THINGS UP FOR EVERYONE. THERE IS NO JOB SECURITY WORKING FOR A NON-UNION COMPANY IN THIS INDUSTRY. PLUS, WE WON’T EVEN MENTION THE NUMBER THAT SCABS COMPANYS HIRE AND FIRE, A 99.95 TURNOVER RATE. NOT GOOD!! A LITTLE LESSON IN THE LONGEVITY OF YOUR EMPLOYEES IS THE KEY TO PROFITABILITY. A DRIVER ON AVERAGE WILL DO 80 PERCENT OF THEIR DAMAGE IN THE FIRST TWO YEARS OF EMPLOYMENT. TWENTY PERCENT THE REST OF THEIR CAREER. THE LONGER A DRIVER HAULS UNITS THE LESS DAMAGE THEY WILL CAUSE. A DRIVERS DAMAGE RATE IS KEY TO A COMPANYS PROFITABILITY. CARHAUL 101!! AN EXPERENCED DRIVER IS WORTH HIS BENEFIT PACKAGE IN GOLD. A COMPANY CANNOT HAVE THE VAST MAJORITY OF ITS DRIVERS TURNOVER YEAR AFTER YEAR AND EXPECT TO REMAIN PROFITABLE. ONCE AGAIN CARHAUL 101. ASSHOLE, IT IS YOU THAT NEEDS TO DO THEIR REASEARCH. ONE AGAIN YOU HAVE DEMONSTRATED YOUR LACK OF CREDIBLE INFORMATION ON ANY SUBJECT POSTED ON THIS SITE. ALSO, YOU PROVED ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE A FUCKING, LOWLIFE, ANTI-UNION, ANTI-WORKER,PIECE OF SHIT,SCAB DOUCHEBAG. DON’T WORRY CHAINSDRAGING I’M KEEPING AN EYE ON HIM WITH THE REAL FACTS. YOU ARE RIGHT, ONCE WE ARE GONE THERE WILL BE NOTHING LEFT!!!
August 21st, 2008 at 5:45 pm
For some people it doesnt matter how much they earn, they will always be crying the blues and not meeting there financial obligations because they are simply not good with money… Carhauler 25 you stike me as one of these individuals.
Try getting more then one source for all your info.
All this good stuff you have is because of Teamsters???????????????
August 21st, 2008 at 8:37 pm
IT IS YOU THAT NEED THE SOURCES. ALL YOU DO IS SPEW DISINFORMATION. THAT IS CORRECT EVERYTHING I HAVE IS BECAUSE OF GOOD UNION JOBS. YOU ARE ABSOLUTLEY RIGHT!!! YOU PIECE OF SHIT SCAB COCKSUKER!!! THAT I DO KNOW ABOUT YOU. YOU IS WHAT YOU ARE!
August 21st, 2008 at 11:27 pm
Hey leasewayover. You need to get your head out of your butt and come to reality. You forget that if the borders open we will be going to canada to bring the cars back here. I had to deal with you canadians in our yard for a year, and dont feel sorry for you at all. Nothing but arrogant
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:32 am
leasewayover.. come on man.. dont hide behind the computer… who do you work for? are you even a car hauler? and whats soo great about being non-union??? can you at least tell me that??? oh.. whats 10-34-1? ha
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:52 am
on a positive note , if the illegals start hauling our cars we will have plenty of time to do some target shootin.
August 22nd, 2008 at 4:08 am
Carhauler 25… what bothers you more……. my posts or the fact that you have all the time in the world to read them. Shall I call Allied and put a good word in for you?
Rainmaker … I dont think the Canadians are asking for your sympathy. Of course your statement against them shows that you have no solidartity. When the borders open I guess they will have no need to ask you for directions to the dealers.
Hoodwink the question is not whats so great about being non union its whats the benefit of belonging to Teamsters. And all of you are hiding behind your computers with the exception of carhualer 25… he gave us a clue. hes not the brightest bulb on the tree.
August 22nd, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Well I can tell ya leasewayover whats great about being union….. for 1 the pay…for the last month I did the unthinkable and worked (notice past tense) for pmtg and can honestly tell you I miss the pay… I would gladly jump back into my rusted up pile of leaseway shit for 15% less pay!! I know tex fuck the paycut but I’m not working so thats alot more of a paycut than 15%! Imagine going from Baltimore maryland to Long Island,ny for less than $175 bucks and then have to dead head back to baltimore! I’m a carhauler and there is nothing else that I want to do in the trucking industry!
HIND SITE IS ALWAYS 20/20
August 23rd, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Ned this is what I have been saying from the beginniing
August 28th, 2008 at 5:43 am
LEASEWAYOVER SHOULD BE BANNED FROM THIS SITE, WHAT A NEGATIVE S.O.B. THATS MY OPINION. HE IS HERE TO DIVIDE US, IGNORE HIM, BAN HIM!!!
CHAINS, THIS IS WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT!, CONTENT, QUALITY, AND PARTICIPATION…
August 28th, 2008 at 11:03 am
Posting on the TDU site:
Carhaul: What Does “No” Mean?
August 27, 2008: Carhaulers are busy teaching the company and union negotiators the meaning of “No.”
It means No Givebacks in the carhaul contract.
Tell them No means No.
Download a No Givebacks bulletin you can read, post, and distribute.
Spread the word. Order No Givebacks stickers from TDU. http://www.tdu.org
To ALL Carhaulers and other Teamster craft members:
Right now our Carhaul industry and labor in general, are in troubled waters. Some of the turbulence is from a poor economy, weak US dollar, speculators, election year and other uncertainties.
Much of the turbulence however, is due to greed, lies & distortions, disloyalty to honorable causes and needs, lack of good direction, lack of focus and lack of old fashion “roll up the sleeves” hard work! These traits are obvious in the VERY POOR leadership in our union and in our nation. In fact, if we are honest, these traits are in our ranks, and in our Teamster leaders, and in both democrats and republicans. Nothing new here. Much sifting is going on in many hearts.
But… to every one of us who are doing nothing about these concerns, other than complaining……. are part of the problem as well. Meanwhile, the bleeding continues.
Battle Plan: Lets grab a hold of the ol preverbal “Volume Knob” and turn it all the way to the right, full volume……then rip the knob off! Lets make sure our Leaders in the Teamsters Union know that we ….. the Rank and File Members have had enough!
Guess what….. TDU members that I have known for many years are NOT whiners, or complainers……..they are for the most part….. folks that get it done!
TDU has been on the battle lines in the victories which have benefited the RANK & FILE for years, such as observer rights at contract votes, majority rule (51%) on contract votes, electing our General Executive Board through membership votes, pension reform and disclosures, salary disclosures of our leaders and Fat Cats, educating and informing the rank and file and the lists goes on…….you get the picture, right? Where have our leaders been in each of these battles? Usually on the “other” side of the battle line.
Log onto http://www.tdu.org get informed, get enrolled and get involved! Circulate the Contract Updates, purchase and distribute the “No More Givebacks” stickers and buttons, order and distribute membership enrollment cards, log onto http://www.teamsters604.org to print out and circulate the “Petition” to replace our negotiators. Turn the Volume up…..& rip the knob off!
No More Givebacks! No More Givebacks! No More Givebacks!
Semper Fi!
August 28th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
HMmmmm
CHAINS, THIS IS WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT!, CONTENT, QUALITY, AND PARTICIPATION…
He sure comes off as some anti Union, Company Management. He certainly has no fans on this site. His opinion has been well rebutted by the membership, So for now not Banned, at least members become passionate enough to take the time create a post against him.
One thing I want the The Carhauler to be is Free Speech, so ALL information can be read in one place so we can have an informed Opinion on the Truth. I know that pisses some people off as they think it should be one thing or another But there are single minded web sites that are just ghost towns of their own opinions. I have opened the Forum to anyone that dares to posts even CEO’S or non union personal. Sooner or later there will be Fires that I will have to but out to keep some order here but that is the nature of the game.
Leasewayover really should consider himself on notice as the members are growing tired of the same old attack. At least come up with something new to add
August 28th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
I can understand your position here. I guess it’s about the big picture. Point taken, message recieved. Keep fighting the good fight. And ignore the crap. 10/4 brother…
Thanks for the response.
August 28th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Well thank god you dont ban people for being stupid because I would be all alone in here.
Some people have trouble reading the truth about themselves.
Load park Charlie…. what are you afraid of? im not here to divide anything…. you are doing that on your own.
Im just a small piece of the crumbling industry who has an opinion which happens to be more educated then your own. Dont let this intimidate you. Keep posting and dont be so concerned about me. I dont attack…… I respond…….
August 29th, 2008 at 1:36 am
Holy Crap ! He didn’t waste no time
August 29th, 2008 at 3:02 am
What was that chains, I didn’t here or see anything. Anyone who knows me, knows what I am all about. I will stand on my merits any day. Chains, you have your work cut out for you brother.
I WITHDRAW MY BANNING COMMENT, IT ISN’T WORTH THE EFFORT… See you on the other side . hint hint…
August 29th, 2008 at 3:39 am
LOL ;)
I had to think about that
August 30th, 2008 at 2:29 am
Load Park Charlie..
You seem insecure…… hint hint
August 30th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
LEASEWAYOVER YOU ADD SPICE TO THE BLOG HERE, HARD TO ALWAYS COMMET WHEN EVERYONE AGREES WITH YA, THEY DO AWAY WITH ARTICLE 48 EQUALIZATION, WE WOULD BE BETTER OFF WTH COMPANY WIDE SENIORITY, BID TWICE A YEAR AND WORK OUT OF WHATEVER TERMINAL YOU WANTED, KINDA LIKE A SCAB OUTFIT, BE OUT 14 DAYS, AND A RUNNING MILE RATE AROUND 70 CENTS A MILE, GET ONE DAY OFF FOR EVERY WEEK YOUR OUT, HAVE CENTRAL DISPATCH RUN THE WHOLE PLACE, LOCAL INCLUDED, JUST HAVE A COMPUTER CLIPBOARD TO RECEIVE YOUR LOADS AND TO SEND BACK YOUR PAPERWORK, JUST LOOK AT THE CLIPBOARD AND SEE WHERE YOU PICK UP YOUR NEXT LOAD,,,, GET YOUR TRUCK SERVICED ON THE ROAD THAT WAY THEY COULD CLOSE DOWN ALL THE UNION SHOPS,,,
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE ARE HEADING IN UNION CARHAUL, THE COMPANY AND THE UNION HAS MADE IT CLEAR THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN CREATING QUALITY JOBS, ALL THEY ARE INTERESTED IN IN CREATING JOBS AT ANY COST.
THE COMPANY THAT I WORK FOR HAS GOT PROBABLY 75 TO 100 TRUCKS ON ARTILCE 48 AT DIFFERENT PLACES, RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE GOT TRUCKS WHERE THE BUSINESS COULD BE HAULED BY THE OTHER SIDE OF A 2 WAY AGREEMENT, AND GOT THAT TERMINAL TRUCKS IN ANOTHER AREA UNDER ARTICLE 48 , HAULING BUSINESS THAT THEY COULD BE BACKHAULING WITH A TERMINAL IN THAT DIRECTION, I’M SURE IT’S SO THEY CAN SHOW THE UNION ALL THE MONEY THAT THEY ARE PAYING OUT ON PERDIEM, SAY 100 TRUCKS AT 27 TO 31 A DAY THAT’S PROBABLY CLOSE TO $3,000.00 A DAY, THEN ADD MOTELS FOR HALF OF THAT SINCE THEY PROBABLY DO NEED ABOUT HALF OF THEM , ANOTHER $2,000.00 A DAY, SO THEY ARE WASTING $5,000.00 A DAY ON MOVING THERE TRUCKS AROUND, 150 THOUSAND A MONTH, WHEN THEY GO TO THE UNION NEGOATIONS NEXT MONTH AND SHOW THEM THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THERE PAYING, THEY WILL GET ANYTHING THEY WANT….. (LIKE 5 TOURS , AND DO AWAY WITH EQUIALIZATION, RUNNING MILE) THAT’S 150 THOUSAND A MONTH THE UNION COULD BE PUTTING INTO THE PENSION FUND AND SENDING DOWN THE SHITTER ,,LOST 3 BILLION FIRST SIX MONTHS OF THE YEAR, IF THAT’S TRUE SOMEBODY SURE NEEDS TO BE WATCHING THE HENHOUSE….. THEY ALSO GOT TRUCKS FROM THE WEST COAST IN THE MIDWEST (UNDER A DIFFERENT COMPANY NAME) SO THEY HAVE TO BE TRIP LEASING , OR AT LEAST IT USE TO BE , UNDER PAST UNION PRACTICES, WHEN THERE ARE DRIVERS FROM PTS COMPANIES LAID OFF THAT SHOULD BE WORKING!!!!!!!!!
August 30th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
NICE POST
Now that is the kind of post I want to see.
Many of us around the country just don’t know what might be going on in your terminal and these are the kind of things we need to know.
I carried this over to the Forum
http://thecarhauler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=38
Thanks texascarhauler
What name would that be ?
August 30th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
PMT, BUT THEY ONLY LET THE DRIVERS OUT OF THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA TERMINAL COME OUT, THE DRIVERS IN THE NORTH THAT TURNED DOWN THE CONTRACT WASN’T OFFERED 48 …OR WASN’T UP TO A FEW DAYS AGO……THEN THEY PUT DRIVERS UNDER WORKING UNDER CENTRAL CONTRACT , UNDER 48, IN CHICAGO, IF I WAS A PTS DRIVER STILL NOT WOKING IN CHICAGO I WOULD BE A LITTLE UPSET!!!!!!!
THERE DEFENSE WILL BE THAT THERE THE SAME COMPANY, BUT IT’S ONLY THE SAME COMPANY WHEN IT’S TO THERE ADVANATAGE….DIFFERENT DOT #’S
August 30th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
Come on where is the out rage ?
You would think the teamster would be out there complaining about these underhanded tactics.
I hate to say it but I don’t trust Hoffa anymore.
September 1st, 2008 at 1:22 am
some of us never did , Hoffa and trust haven’t gone together since 75
September 1st, 2008 at 3:57 am
You got that right brother, His father would roll over in his grave, if he saw what jr. has been doing.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:04 am
Good job texascarhauler…
September 1st, 2008 at 10:15 am
ANOTHER BENEFIT WE OVERLOOK—-HOLIDAYS—-HAPPY LABOR DAY TO ALL!!!!—–BROUGHT TO YOU BY UNIONS—- JUST KEEP TWO NAMES IN MIND TO UNDERSTAND THIS CONTRACTUAL MESS WE ARE IN—-HOFFA AND BURKLE—-IF THERE EVER WAS A SMOKING GUN——BURKLE WANTS HIS MONEY BACK
September 1st, 2008 at 7:10 pm
YOU ONLY GET THAT BENIFIT IF YOU WORKED THE DAY BEFORE, OR WITHIN 30 DAYS OF BEING LAID OFF WHEN IT FELL,,,, THERE ARE A LOT OF DRIVERS OUT THERE THAT ARE LAID OFF BECAUSE OF THE DECEISIONS MADE BY THE UNION,AND THE COMPANY, THE MANUFACTURES ARE NOT GIVING ALL THE BUSINESS AT PLANT SITES AND RAILYARDS ,ANYMORE TO JUST UNION COMPANIES, ESPECIALLY NOW SINCE WE DON’T HAVE A CONRACT, DON’T THINK FOR ONE SECOND THAT THE MANUFACTURES AREN’T KEEPING TAPS ON WHAT’S GOING ON WITH OUR CONTRACT,, THE COMPANIES AND THE UNION NEED GET THIS THING SETTLE QUICK, OR WE WILL LOSE MORE JOBS, PLAIN AND SIMPLE, IN THE PAST YEAR WE HAVE PROBABLY LOST 1000 DRIVERS TO NON-UNION COMPANIES, THERE NOT WORRIED ABOUT HOLIDAYS, THERE WORRIED ABOUT PUTTING FOOD ON THE TABLE,, BUT WHO WE HAVE LEADING US IN THIS DEAL WILL COME BACK WITH ANOTHER POS DEAL, WE MIGHT EVEN GO OUT A COUPLE OF DAYS JUST TO MAKE SURE THEY GET THE YES VOTE, HOPEFULLY WE WILL ALL GET IT TURNED DOWN , IF ITS ANOTHER POS CONTRACT. DON’T THINK THEY HAVE BEEN LISTENING ANYWAY,,,,,,,
ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS KEEP US IN THE DARK AND FEED US BULLSHIT,,,, TALKED TO ANY FREIGHT GUYS LATELY, CAN’T FIND ANYBODY THAT VOTED FOR THERE POS DEAL, ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US AND THEM IS WE HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE THAT CAN READ, AND ADD AND SUBTRACT, AND MULTIPLY , AND DON’T BELIEVE WHAT WERE TOLD………
September 3rd, 2008 at 1:58 am
now that they’ve found out that we can read and think for ourselves they won’t put out any info for us to read or think about.